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25 February 2013 @ 04:28 pm
blue evap line?  

I took a Rite-Aid brand pregnancy test this morning.  It appeared negative.  I looked at it again about 10 hours later and there is definitely a blue line in the test window.  I've heard that evap lines do not have color... is this possibly a positive test?

Survey questions:

1. What type of birth control?
Tubal cautery 9 years ago.   (people often conflate the most permanent form of birth control with 100% effective but it's not.  It's statistically less effective than IUDs.)

2. Were there any problems with your protection (condom breaking, missing pills)?

3. Are you trying to get pregnant, or avoiding it?

How many days are between the first day of one period and the first day
of your next? 24-25

5. Any changes which could change your cycle (major change in diet, exercise, new medication, new stress?)
My last to periods were very light and only lasted about 1 1/2 days.

6. What was the month/day your last period started? 2/21

7. What date(s) did you have sex?
A lot.

8. Where was ejaculation(in vagina, in condom, pulled-out)?
In vagina.

9.  Is there anything else that makes you think you're pregnant?
My last two periods were very light and I felt more PMS after them than before them.
Another time, a few years ago, I had what might have been a very faint positive test accompanied by weird light periods.

Lemonade Girl: avatar- blinkingmslaynie on February 26th, 2013 03:50 am (UTC)
Yes, a tubal is not 100% effective. However, from what I understand most of those failures happen early on when the ends of the fallopian tubes fail to seal or find their way back together. After 9 years, you really need to see a doctor about tubal reversal if you want to get pregnant.

This is also why test instructions are always very clear about not looking at the test outside of the time referred. You judge a test based on what it looks like right after you take it, not hours later.

I'm sorry, but I really don't think you're pregnant.
Laura B: Napoleonmajortom_thecat on February 26th, 2013 04:10 am (UTC)
Thanks. I've been looking into reversal surgery but not sure about it. My OB doesn't recommend it at all. Failure rates do actually increase after around 8 years though, especially if you were under 30 when you had the tubal, which I was.

It sounds like blue-dye tests often give blue evap lines, from what I've read other places.
Lemonade Girl: avatar- blinkingmslaynie on February 26th, 2013 04:34 am (UTC)
It's possible. The one thing to remember is that with any test, don't look at it after the reading time listed in the instructions. That's a good way to avoid problems like these, especially because you know anything that shows up outside that time window is not indicative of pregnancy.

I have to apologize, after doing a lot of reading since you posted, I see that you're right, and that the failure rate increases over time. I still think you should see a doctor, mainly because you have a much higher chance of ectopic pregnancy after a tubal ligation, so even if you were to conceive, it could be dangerous (or possibly life-threatening).
Laura B: Napoleonmajortom_thecat on February 26th, 2013 04:43 am (UTC)
Oh, no worries. I saw a naturopath who was very encouraging. She referred me an OB about at least getting my tubes checked. The OB was very discouraging though, without even wanting to hear much. It was kinda weird. You're right though - I probably should keep going in that direction since the desire to get pregnant doesn't seem to be going away.
Lemonade Girl: avatar- blinkingmslaynie on February 26th, 2013 05:07 am (UTC)
Yea, a HSG is definitely the next step IMO. That way you know for a fact what you're working with.

I went through a stage several years ago when I was obsessed with having a baby. Unfortunately, my sterilization was a bit more thorough than yours- I'd gone into premature ovarian failure and had a total hysterectomy thanks to 20 years of endometriosis. That was loads of fun...

Thankfully it wore off after 2-3 years, and now I'm back to content with having just the one. :D
Laura B: Napoleonmajortom_thecat on February 26th, 2013 05:26 am (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear you went through all that. I keep trying to tell myself I don't really want a kid, but then why do I think about it so much... my sister just found out she's pregnant with her second so I think that's what set my imagination off this time.

Thanks for encouraging me to follow up with the doctors. I really do want to know what I've got going on in there. Why not, right?

I also have some kind of mullerian anomaly that showed up on an ultrasound. They couldn't tell whether my uterus is divided by a septum or is bicornuate. Nobody bothered to tell me until the naturopath got my records years later. Maybe they thought I wouldn't care because I was sterilized. The doctor who did the sterilization might know what kind of anomaly it is, but he's retired now. The naturopath didn't think it would be an issue, but I'm really curious to know about that too.
Lemonade Girl: avatar- blinkingmslaynie on February 26th, 2013 07:59 am (UTC)
Eh, that's the tip of the iceberg for me. I decided years ago that my body is a lemon, but I haven't figured out who to sue to get a replacement. ;)

Having a baby is huge, and in lots of ways people just process until after the baby is here. I wouldn't dream of telling someone whether they should or shouldn't have a baby, just because it is such a personal thing. But I would suggest you talk it over, and talk about the bad parts of parenting as well as the good ones. Otherwise it's really easy to get caught up in "OMG baby smell baby feet baby heads baby smiles..."

The bicornate uterus could be a problem. I honestly don't know all that much about it, other than you might need more medical help in both getting and staying pregnant than you'd be comfortable with. Then again, that goes along with so many other things in life too.

And the bottom line is that sometimes things just happen. I had enough scar tissue and problems in my reproductive organs that it was unknown if I would even be able to get pregnant with medical assistance, and my GYN started asking me whether I was ready to start trying when I was 17. He knew it would be a rough road. And then I met my husband and got pregnant within the first 5 times we had sex. So yea, that was interesting. :D

Whatever path you choose, I hope you have luck with it , and find a resolution you're comfortable with.
Laura B: Napoleonmajortom_thecat on February 26th, 2013 02:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks, it's nice to be able to talk about all this. :) I question my own reasons for wanting one. I don't really think about babies, it's more that I like the idea of having a family with my husband. Never really felt the urge until I met him. We would probably adopt if we could afford it, maybe we will at some point, but we don't even have an extra room in the house right now. So for now we just adopt our drunken friends and take them on day trips.

My mom has offered to pay for a tubal reversal but I'm still not sure. For one thing, I don't want to take her money. She already has 9 going on 10 grandchildren from my siblings. I don't know how I'd feel about it if I made things happen, I guess I'm more comfortable with whatever was meant t be.
Lemonade Girl: avatar- blinkingmslaynie on February 27th, 2013 03:05 am (UTC)
Oh, man... it might be worth talking to new parents, just to get an idea of what it's like. Even the ones I know who wanted kids desperately and planned for them are blown away by how much lifestyle change it is- the lack of sleep and having a person who is 100% reliant on you 100% of the time. And the money... I am constantly amazed at just how much money babies cost. Not just babies either, children... it's astounding, and it doesn't stop. Mine is 19, and it's still unreal.

So yea, if you really want kids that's awesome, but if you aren't sure? Think twice. Think three times even. :D
Laura B: Napoleonmajortom_thecat on February 27th, 2013 03:14 pm (UTC)
I am familiar. These things are why I'm hesitant. My grandma was my whole life for her last three years. I took care of her 24/7. It was almost too much for one person. And I also helped raise my younger siblings but it was nice that there were so many of us to take turns babysitting. I keep saying (half joking/half serious) that if we do have kids we're moving to a commune.
She appears composed, so she is, I suppose.: Boisestacyinthecity on February 26th, 2013 04:09 am (UTC)
Am I reading correctly, your period was 4 days ago? You couldn't have even ovulated yet, so are you saying that you think you were pregnant from your previous cycle and your most recent period wasn't a period but bleeding in early pregnancy? If that is the case, most people taking a pregnancy test at this point would have a pretty clear positive during the acceptable window to read a test. You said it appeared negative at first, so that is the correct reading of the test.

I'm sorry, but I agree with the comment above me. It does not seem like you are pregnant based on the test you took and there is no additional information that you have provided that would lead me to suspect a positive despite the negative test and the tubal.

If having a baby is a priority and something you'd prefer not to leave up to chance, you might want to look into tubal reversal surgery or IVF. I know nothing about tubal reversal success rates though. Vasectomy reversal rates are around 95% of men will have a return of sperm but only about 50% will get their partners pregnant. My DH had the V and VR and unfortunately, we are in the can't get pregnant category so we are moving to IVF. I know the pain of desperately wanting a child but previous decisions preventing that and I'm very sorry you are going through this.
Laura B: Napoleonmajortom_thecat on February 26th, 2013 04:15 am (UTC)
Yes, but it was very light and only lasted 1 1/2 days, which was why I questioned whether it was a real period. Good luck with IVF, I hope it works out for you.
She appears composed, so she is, I suppose.: Boisestacyinthecity on February 26th, 2013 05:36 am (UTC)
Thank you! And you too, whatever happens with this or anything else you pursue.